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Ian_GDM
11-20-2005, 02:42 PM
Check it out guys, tell me what you think- http://www.FOBfucker.com Yes I'm going to burn in hell for the title and I think my ex-partner is stalking me with a high-power rifle but I wanted to get back into production to try my hand at an Asian reality site. I know shit about that niche so any ideas are more than welcome.

It's a video site but we take stills for banners and the tour. Got a ton of content still to process but here are some of the girls:

http://www.FOBfucker.com/newgirls/1-01.jpg
http://www.FOBfucker.com/newgirls/2-01.jpg
http://www.FOBfucker.com/newgirls/3-01.jpg
http://www.FOBfucker.com/newgirls/4-01.jpg
http://www.FOBfucker.com/newgirls/5-01.jpg

ALOTI
11-20-2005, 06:07 PM
Interesting. I may be in to work it. Let me know Ian. BTW http://www.asianamateurcash.com/tour-pics/FBF-tour.jpg does not load.

ALOTI

Scuzz
11-20-2005, 06:19 PM
Well, I must be as dumb as you accuse me of being.
I don't get it with the domain name.
I'll bet that couch is getting pretty sticky though. :wink:

Ian_GDM
11-20-2005, 06:42 PM
Thanks ALOTI- I appreciate that. Let me know if you need anything.

Scuzz-did I ever call you dumb? But point taken, I should explain the slang a little more clearly in the text pitch. FOB is Fresh Off Boat.

shunga
11-20-2005, 07:03 PM
The pictures look good, even if the girls are a little too thin for me. The tour doesn't make the pitch right, in my opinion, at least it could pitch better, and I'd work on cropping the thumbnails more, but I'm obsessive with that stuff.

Chichio
11-20-2005, 07:41 PM
Pretty cute girls. They are all very fair skinned. Where are you shooting?

jakudza
11-21-2005, 01:59 AM
models look promising ;)

i dont like your thumbs (colors of it) too
i think you should work on it.

i would make those thumbs from pictures, not from movies if i were you.

Ian_GDM
11-21-2005, 03:07 AM
Thanks guys, I'll go back over it and see what I can do. Our models are all in NYC, huge Chinese community here and less affluent than the West Coast Asian community so prime shooting ground.

The first generation head camera sucked, at least color-wise. The second 3CCD is a lot better and all the content is shot with it now.

ramtar
11-21-2005, 01:14 PM
Models are very nice.

The asian reality site looks promising.

Good Luck with it 8)

shunga
11-21-2005, 04:18 PM
Thanks guys, I'll go back over it and see what I can do.

I think with a site like that the tour needs to tell a story.

For example, in the header you might have a picture of a girl with a suitcase at the airport, a confused look on her face with your hand holding out a bunch of cash.

A few hardcore "later" pictures establishes the whole theme of the site as soon as the surfer hits the page.

The lack of colour in the background of the shoots also makes the pictures look too cool. You can minimise that with tighter cropping, but in future I'd try to add some more background elements to liven it up.

With those changes I think it will make a great converting site, given the ground it covers is pretty fresh.

Fetishlady
11-21-2005, 08:19 PM
very cute models...i'm sure they will do well.

wildgirl
11-21-2005, 10:29 PM
pretty cute models :)

Ian_GDM
11-22-2005, 02:35 AM
Thanks Shunga, awesome advice. You are dead right about needing a story. Think I'm just going to just touch it up a bit and then do a new tour based on some of this advice and the new content- thanks guys, you rock.

Doug E
11-22-2005, 06:46 AM
I think you need to space it out a bit more. It's information overload. A good thing for the surfer, I loved it. But I think with all the previews you can squeeze in some more site hype stuff between the 'click here to watch entire movie' link and the 'name' title.

And maybe breaking it up into 2 pages would be good, force your surfer to see another header advertisement on top of page two before he scrawls down.

The girls are hot, I've been hoping for a true Chinese girls site, in english, to try out. So many sites say they have Chinese girls but theyre obviously of a lower latitude. I think a lot of surfers are looking for fair skinned Chinese/Japanese/Korean models and there's not enough sites out their catering to it.

Ian_GDM
11-22-2005, 07:14 AM
The girls are hot, I've been hoping for a true Chinese girls site, in english, to try out. So many sites say they have Chinese girls but theyre obviously of a lower latitude. I think a lot of surfers are looking for fair skinned Chinese/Japanese/Korean models and there's not enough sites out their catering to it.

Thanks:-) To say that Chinese (recently from the mainland, not ABC) are a challenge to shoot is the understatement of the century. I've got girls pouting half way through a BJ, hawking lugees off the side of the bed onto the floor, screaming and running from the money shot, putting their hands over the camera, poking their finger in my eyes (to see if they are real!?). It requires a huge amount of patience and the only way to get enough of them to build a site around is to have a golden rep so they refer their friends. These girls are all from one child families and when you work with them it really shows. I can't imagine you are going to see many real hardcore Chinese sites anytime soon.

Sukebe
11-22-2005, 07:19 AM
I'd love to do a couple of scenes with any of those girls. Where are they located?

Need shooting tips? I'm the guy to ask.

Ian_GDM
11-22-2005, 09:15 AM
Shooting I'm ok with:-) Girls are all in NYC, sorry but we try to keep our models exclusive. Anything else I can do though...

shunga
11-22-2005, 04:37 PM
The girls are hot, I've been hoping for a true Chinese girls site, in english, to try out. So many sites say they have Chinese girls but theyre obviously of a lower latitude. I think a lot of surfers are looking for fair skinned Chinese/Japanese/Korean models and there's not enough sites out their catering to it.

Thanks:-) To say that Chinese (recently from the mainland, not ABC) are a challenge to shoot is the understatement of the century. I've got girls pouting half way through a BJ, hawking lugees off the side of the bed onto the floor, screaming and running from the money shot, putting their hands over the camera, poking their finger in my eyes (to see if they are real!?). It requires a huge amount of patience and the only way to get enough of them to build a site around is to have a golden rep so they refer their friends. These girls are all from one child families and when you work with them it really shows. I can't imagine you are going to see many real hardcore Chinese sites anytime soon.

I'd agree with Doug about information overload. You could actually do a minimal header and turn the episode boxes into sales pitches along the lines I mentioned.

And the stuff you mentioned above? Include some of that in the scene descriptions, too. ;)

Doug E
01-22-2006, 01:01 PM
Coco- Cookies man. SHE BAKED COOKIES and brought them to my apartment, hands me the cookies and starts taking her clothes off. Who bakes for an amateur porn fuck? Why aren't there more girls who cook doing porn? That is a FINE FINE women and we are all undeserving. Sex was decent but she wasn't too happy about the facial cum shot LOL cookies were awesome. -FOBfucker

This one cracked me up good. :lol: nice additions to the galleries. Conversions are nuts.

butterflybucks
01-22-2006, 01:17 PM
Yeah I like this site! Everyone knows I'm into the POV style so I think this is nicely done!

jscott
01-24-2006, 08:52 PM
Hey Ian_GDM, chk this link again: http://www.asianamateurcash.com/sites.html

hover over the juliebaek scrn prnt image, instead of linking to juliebaek.com it links to nikkipark.com

just fyi for ya man

Ian_GDM
01-30-2006, 11:42 PM
Thanks guys, this one was well out of my niche so I really had to go and look at what a lot of board members were doing in order to have a clue. Still thinking of a bunch of redesigns. Conversions have been amazing:-) Will check that link- thanks!

Civic3D
01-31-2006, 09:36 AM
Hot girl :)
:oops:

vin_cross
02-21-2006, 07:30 AM
do you shoot at all in asia?

Ian_GDM
02-21-2006, 09:35 PM
do you shoot at all in asia?
No, I live about half the year in Asia but still work in the US. After being chased out of Taiwan with the police hot on our tails I kind of lost my taste of living dangerously. Got a real comfortable life with a sweet GF, getting thrown in a jail with bamboo bars is just not on the agenda. I just would not make that much more for the risk.

Model availability is not such a big issue for me because of good networking in NYC, just cost. And honestly with light skinned Asians unless you are doing really large volume it's not really that much cheaper to work overseas and there are a lot more hassles to deal with.