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eru
06-29-2002, 03:27 AM
I want to move this conversation to its own thread.

We really should start a agreement among Asian TGP's that paid-hosts should get the better listings to encourage webmasters to use them. Look at larger mainstream TGP's such as The Hun, Snakesworld, AL4A, Shemp, etc. The majority of the galleries listed are on paid-hosts. Why? Because paid hosts are more reliable, faster, and can generate more money. My income in the two-figure area after I made the jump from free-host to paid host. It was a good decision that I unfortunately do not see many other Asian TGP submitters doing.

CrazyAL
06-29-2002, 03:51 AM
it's hard to switch it around it's almost all free hosts with Asian TGPs....and ofcourse with the big mainstream TGPS they deal with huge amounts of traffic and have a huge amount of people submiting, not to mention they list almost every niche so they are able to black list free hosts and still have a huge amount of galleries to choose from. It would be awesome though if more people used pay hosts

mech
06-29-2002, 04:10 AM
"two-figure area", I hope that's per gallery :wink: !

It would be nice for this pipedream to materialize but for the most part I don't get a it takes money to make money mentality from most Asian niche submitters (or from many TGP owners for that matter). In the last year I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been impressed by a gallery design or content. 90% of submitted galleries to my site are the same exact template and the same exact content as has been submitted 1 year ago. I don't get the vibe that many people are really trying, most seem to be doing this to make beer money for the weekends.

Besides, do any of us really have the extra time to check out each gallery to make sure their not actually hosted by some cheating company like zFree?

eru
06-29-2002, 04:29 AM
"two-figure area", I hope that's per gallery :wink: !

It would be nice for this pipedream to materialize but for the most part I don't get a it takes money to make money mentality from most Asian niche submitters (or from many TGP owners for that matter). In the last year I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been impressed by a gallery design or content. 90% of submitted galleries to my site are the same exact template and the same exact content as has been submitted 1 year ago. I don't get the vibe that many people are really trying, most seem to be doing this to make beer money for the weekends.

Besides, do any of us really have the extra time to check out each gallery to make sure their not actually hosted by some cheating company like zFree?

Mech, what is your ICQ? What TGP do you run? I bet you have never seen one of my galleries -> They are *very* different from the norm to say the least.

Scuzz
06-29-2002, 05:35 AM
Hey Eru...
Let's see some galleries. Kikos is always looking for something different. I get sick of the same old shit from the same 30 guys.

eru
06-29-2002, 07:17 AM
My galleries usually have 14 pics yet the rules on the submit form say 15. Is that OK?

BTW, here is the gallery I made today: it only has 12 pics but 14 is my avg.
Please no one copy my design, thanks:
http://www.zenra-movies.com/tgp/684a.htm

mech
06-29-2002, 09:22 AM
I run Porno Panda (http://www.pornopanda.com/) (submit page (http://www.pornopanda.com/cgi-bin/tgp/post.cgi)).

Your gallery looks fine but I don't like those blind links to your site but as long as the link doesn't spawn exit pops it's excusable.

Scuzz
06-29-2002, 09:53 AM
Hey Eru!
Thanx for the layout. :twisted:

Your gallery looks fine to me. (except for the broken recips at the top.)
Email with a username and password that you want, and I'll set you up.

06-29-2002, 04:12 PM
Hey Eru!
Thanx for the layout. :twisted:

Your gallery looks fine to me. (except for the broken recips at the top.)
Email with a username and password that you want, and I'll set you up.

Broken recips at the top? Looks fine here. I don't really consider my links blind. You do have the ability to download the movie *AFTER* you get membership. It's not like I'm saying "CLICK HERE FOR 1 BILLION BLOWJOBS!!!"

What's your email address Scuzz?

eru
06-29-2002, 04:16 PM
Maybe it's my browser that is not doing the cookie thing correctly -> Opera

Corbu
06-29-2002, 06:38 PM
we have seen same crap every day as well coming into our TGP we have tried to spice things up with my gallery designs as well

this is not on a free server
http://www.beaverxxx.com/cheryl/blue-top/

doesn't take much to make somethinglook decent looking

my partner worked on these as well in the past
http://www.sexysatomi.com/TGP/lesbian/
http://www.sexysatomi.com/TGP/public/

another version of the same gallery above
http://www.sexysatomi.com/TGP/ex_1_outside/

but to convert you dont need a nice design if you have great content

:wink:

eru
06-29-2002, 09:51 PM
http://www.sexysatomi.com/TGP/lesbian/
http://www.sexysatomi.com/TGP/public/

I don't think both of those galleries will have a good chance of getting listed b/c they are too ad-heavy. You also have too much scrolling till you see the pics.

CrazyAL
06-30-2002, 10:16 AM
content does play a big roll.....content and nice clean gallery setup, I tend to lists those higher.

My biggest complaint with galleries is the use of the same pics over and over. Everyone uses the same pictures.....rarely do I get fresh shit..and I think that's something that you see alot to much of in the Asian niche.

Scuzz
06-30-2002, 12:39 PM
Aw Hell, CrazyAl!
I've only got 100K scans and 8 or 9 hundred sets of 52 Urabon pics. If I had known you'd seen them all, I woulda quit submitting galleries to you ages ago! :wink:

eru
06-30-2002, 03:26 PM
Yea -- at first I thought the scanner scene was dying, but a few days ago I started hanging out in #asianscans on DALNet and I was told otherwise. They told me to use giganews instead of my ISP to access newsgroups and boy was I surprised. bluebird.reposts had over 60000 new headers (my isp only had 3000!). So in a nutshell: get a real newsgroup provider :)

mech
06-30-2002, 09:13 PM
Sucks to be you dude :P . My ISP gives me full access to newgroups and I can see 60000+ headers :D . Looks like it's time you switch ISPs... you're not with AOL are you? :wink:

Austin
06-30-2002, 09:23 PM
The x-worx webmaster gets my vote for best gallery design.
Here is his latest gallery, I am still trying to figure out how he does it.
http://www.astralspace.com/x-worx/Teen/nextdoor/06/ishorny6.html

eru
06-30-2002, 11:05 PM
That x-worx design probably has a shitty CTR albeit a good design.

mech - I use optimum online for internet -- not AOL :) I'm pretty happy with giganews though. It's very fast and retention rocks.

CrazyAL
06-30-2002, 11:17 PM
Scuzz I rarely ever see a scan set I have not seen before....... :D but even so alot of posters always use the same sets of scans, it's like they make 20-30 galleries and just resubmit them every month :(

eru
06-30-2002, 11:18 PM
AL -- I have a lot of new shit as well -- I hope you like what I have to offer :)

mech
06-30-2002, 11:20 PM
But is that necessarily a bad thing? If a surfer keeps seeing the same shit over and over at the free sites it might be incentive enough to join a pay site... or look for a different free site :?

eru
06-30-2002, 11:38 PM
Nice thinking mech :P