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CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 06:19 AM
Hey guys I am thinking of building a another pay site for AdultBucks.com (one just ain't cutting it). Trying to think of some groovy names :) I think I may go with a Japanese style one but would like you hear some suggestions on some good names :)

mech
08-21-2002, 06:38 AM
I don't have any names off the top of my head (try http://www.deleteddomains.com/ and see if any expired domains exist with "japan" in them) but if you're interested in a partner or someone to help with the odd task give me a shout, I'm all ears for a good business opportunity. :thumb: You can't run AdultBucks all on your own can you? You need a staff :smoking: .

webgurl
08-21-2002, 06:43 AM
okay well not sure if any of these are taken but here are my choices

naughtyasians.com
badjapanesegirls.com
japanesepussylicking.com
hornyasianbuckets.com (hehehe)
wetasiansluts.com
lustyasians.com
mehornyforyou.com

okay ummm running outta ideas

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 07:07 AM
No doubt mech I have been thinking of getting a partner the past month, but I am not sure though yet......just the fact of sharing costs is appealing. Especially being so new, it's hard to get program going with out having the huge cash like the major players for advertising, multiple sites, higher payouts, exclusive content, programming, bullshit etc. :( Plus just having another head thinking of different techniques and ideas and spliting work loads helps....The way I am doing it now is slow growth....extremely slow groth hehehe hopefully it picks up and a bigger profit is turned cuz I have some really cool ideas I would like to try.

ecchi mecha
08-21-2002, 07:14 AM
go simple with an easy to remember name...something you can brand...forget SE's, etc....just get a cool simple name :thumb:

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 07:17 AM
I been thinking short with just the let "J" but dunno what

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 07:18 AM
if you could only know how many hits those deleted domains are getting hehe :) somewhat free traffic I see alot of webmaster buying domains and just refreshing them to sponsors.......don't want to buy a bunch and get 0 hits though.

just need a script that searches the SEs on the domains I guess........although I am guessing many people already do this and the ones listed just get taken right away.

ecchi mecha
08-21-2002, 07:19 AM
for example...

CrazyAlXXX.com

much better than hotnudeasianchick.com

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 07:29 AM
Oh my! on that deleted domain site I found "tokyopm.com" someone was trying to make a living off my typo traffic :) He must be living in a card board box now somewhere :roll:

ecchi mecha
08-21-2002, 07:35 AM
j-Al.com

very cool...you can do something in pink underwear....hehe!!

Scuzz
08-21-2002, 08:00 AM
japho.com and jslut.com are available if yer into nasty.

Where do you guys get yer domains?
Ever found anyone cheaper (or better) than godaddy?

mech
08-21-2002, 08:01 AM
just need a script that searches the SEs on the domains I guessThis be what you're needin' http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/ I suspect.

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 08:24 AM
I dunno steve I would have to get a bikini wax first

ALOTI
08-21-2002, 09:04 AM
May be not what you are looking for, but try using a Japanese phrase or word, Like "J-Shasei". Literally ejaculation in japanese with the "J" in front. I have a brief list of translations you can browse for ideas. http://webnetladies.com/urabon/urabon/nav/index-definitions.htm , hope it helps.

John

jah
08-21-2002, 04:33 PM
Hi CrazyAl,

My site is also a stand alone model, which to be honest does not really cut it in the western market. The idea of at least having 3 or 4 "doorway sites" leading to the one generic members area is something we are looking into.

The best bet is to assess the content you do have and make sites around that. I am sure you have some Japanese Bondage content, therefore create a site for that. Likewise, other niches you may have. Schoolgirl, Costume etc.. I know I am stating the obvious here :) but I hope it backs up ideas that you are having.

To be honest, I agree with the fact that you shouldn't necessarily have japanesetitfuckers.com or similar as a domain. Something like CrazyAlsDojo/sushibar.com or whatever would brand quite nicely.

Just some ideas

CrazyAL
08-21-2002, 11:49 PM
Jah your meaning more along the lines of a micro niche type of Asian site? I totally understand what you mean in regards to stand alone sites just not cutting it in the western market.... but finding original fetish content is hard, and finding it for the Asian niche is even harder.

I basically just want to offer affiliates another option to send hits to, this will offer me more traffic as well as more signups for me and the advertisers. Maybe I can find a micro niche just have to see what I can do with what I have access to.

javmodel
08-22-2002, 12:05 AM
There is too many free porn in the internet.
Only movie paysite can survive.
That's my forecast. :lol:

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 01:32 AM
well perhaps a movie site is the way to go.

mech
08-22-2002, 01:59 AM
How about hungryjapan.com? You can start a new niche of naked women eating lunch. :lol:

Only movie paysite can survive.Sure but where are we supposed to find licensed Asian video content? Not everyone can/wants/or has access to AV VCDs.

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 02:01 AM
dude....set up a movie site and give me a pass...my pass to javmodel.com just ran out :nut:

haha...oh well...at least I'll get some fresh air without all those movies to download!

thanks again javmodel!

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 02:05 AM
Not everyone can/wants/or has access to AV VCDs.

it's easy to buy AV VCD's...check jlist.com or ebay or there are a dozen other places....also, a lot of people are traders, so you can always trade off the net

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 02:07 AM
no one's done a japanese face sitter site...that can be your ticket to a good niche, Al...

I almost fell out of my chair laughing the first time I saw a face sitter site!!

javmodel
08-22-2002, 02:27 AM
mech,
The main source of porn movie in asia is in Japan.
However, uncensored movie is illegal in Japan.
So there is no such a copyright of a uncensored movie there.
No body will claim for it unless the owner want to be in jail.
All the licensed Asian movie right now are made in Thaiand, Philippine and in the state. I think nobody interest on it.
Maybe in one day, the Japanese government open his mind and allow uncensored movie to be legal. Then I am sure over 90% of the asian paysite and the online xxx video store will be closed down at once. :lol:

ecchi mecha,
That's ok,
just my 2 cents :lol:

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 02:28 AM
Well I need to shoot my own shit to do those micro niche type things like face sitting.

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 02:32 AM
ecchi mecha,
That's ok,
just my 2 cents :lol:

just thought I would stir the pot and give Al some ideas....I like Japanese AV stars myself :smoking:

mech
08-22-2002, 03:04 AM
Not everyone can/wants/or has access to AV VCDs.

it's easy to buy AV VCD's...check jlist.com or ebay or there are a dozen other places....also, a lot of people are traders, so you can always trade off the netmech,
The main source of porn movie in asia is in Japan.
However, uncensored movie is illegal in Japan.
So there is no such a copyright of a uncensored movie there.
No body will claim for it unless the owner want to be in jail.
All the licensed Asian movie right now are made in Thaiand, Philippine and in the state. I think nobody interest on it.
Maybe in one day, the Japanese government open his mind and allow uncensored movie to be legal. Then I am sure over 90% of the asian paysite and the online xxx video store will be closed down at once. :lol:

ecchi mecha,
That's ok,
just my 2 cents :lol:I know it's easy enough to get and most of it has no copyright claimant BUT what do you do if APIC or your Host or the FBI start asking for your content licence or age verification? Are they going to take the "no copyright & these Girls are all 18+ I promise" at face value?

javmodel
08-22-2002, 03:39 AM
I know it's easy enough to get and most of it has no copyright claimant BUT what do you do if APIC or your Host or the FBI start asking for your content licence or age verification? Are they going to take the "no copyright & these Girls are all 18+ I promise" at face value?

I think this is the big concern for all the asian webmatser to think about it.
18+ is not the problem since all the models are over 18. Just concern the copyright.

I did talk to a satff in kuki in Japan. He said over 99% asian site have copyright problem. Let's say Akira Fubuki or Madoka Ozawa, most of the sites, even some big name paysite use their images for preview page, banner, content etc. But all of them have no copyright at all.

Luckily, the Japanese never care of copyright, otherwise most of the asian webmaster here will disapper and no more scanist :lol:

javmodel
08-22-2002, 03:51 AM
One more info, In Hong Kong, There is a lot of shops selling some copycat of Japanese porn movie. Couple weeks ago, the Hong Kong custom department closed those shops and invite some owner of those movie sue the shop owner. But the Japanese refused to do so.
What a joke!! :roll:

ALOTI
08-22-2002, 04:20 AM
In my dealings with Japanese webmasters, copyright and such are a "Ho-humm" to them. It is business. And they will do whatever they need to sell their product. As far as underage, it is fine to feature a model at 14 in a bathing suit (maybe a bit of exposure), just no sex or genitals. As you all know, the "Hair Nude" law, they cannot portray direct sex acts or underage personal exposure, but they sure push it.

Anyhow, haven't we got off the issue here? Maybe we need a new thread. Damn Al, have you got any ideas here for a name?

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 04:42 AM
j-twister.com

can be a niche site...a bunch of cutie jgirls playing twister in the nude :lol: (I think I got this idea from mech's j-hungry)

I just found some Digital Photo Album pics on the net over at hometown.aol.com...damn...those sets are expensive!! A little too graphic for me, but the chicks are really cute!

JACK
08-22-2002, 04:48 AM
Hello CrazyAL,

Iíve found my self that by focusing my site on Japanese and Asian women I was cutting my own throat because it left me with such a small and hard target market that why I will soon be revamping my site.




Javmodel you must be new to the biz LOL

Every movies on you site is copyright LOL are you telling me none of them are uncensored movie?

Not sure who is giving you your info but you may want to smack them in the head a few time for good luck :-) To date Japan produces over 90% of all the licensed and copy right stuff coming out of that part of the world. There is very little coming out of Thaiand and Philippine states.
The biggest company based in Tokyo/Japan producing licensed and copy right uncensored movie is V&R Planning Co the second biggest is Sun Images and there joint international division is call the V&R International Ltd
But donít take my word for it check it out your self LAMO

You for got to add that there reason the Japanese refused to take legal action against copycat Japanese movies was the disclaimer copycat Japanese movies had on them, the Japanese movie producers thought it would be a waste of time and money to try to go after them.
Now the Hong Kong custom department and Japanese movies makes are working to gather to pass a new law that will take actions against copycat movies producers.


If you want Asian original fetish content I maybe be able to hook you up, they will even do custom shoots for you but they will not give you any paper work LOL so use it at your own risk


jlist.com buy case lots of AV VCD's just resell them any one can open a resell site if the have enough money:-)




Sorry to read and run, donít have much time, going a trip, take care every one.

Shoplifter
08-22-2002, 06:14 AM
mech,
The main source of porn movie in asia is in Japan.
However, uncensored movie is illegal in Japan.
So there is no such a copyright of a uncensored movie there.
No body will claim for it unless the owner want to be in jail.


I hear this argument a lot...I think a lot of Japanese companies have their media copyrights enforced via USA distributors. I think the above unwritten rules will change soon. Probably for now you can get away with it.

I am often totally astonished by the amount of copyright ignorance in the Asian genre, even at big players like Adultbouncer. One site there actually has the nerve to watermark their stolen VCD rips.

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 06:25 AM
I am un sure right now what name to use, or what niche to go with......maybe I will just pump out a another site like Asian play time maybe just a teen or hardcore type one or something gives another outlet to send hits..... I am still un easy building a Japanese type site.....number one reason is I do not have model proof of age and number 2 I do not have copyrights to the material...... I feel bad enough using scans and urabon images on my sites and I think that is as far as I will ever go in terms of using content I do not have rights too. I feel using any kind of content you do not have rights to (regardless what you all say) is somewhat wrong. What you gonna do if you run into trouble with the law? how you gonna prove your shit is legal? Do you really want to risk it? I know lots of people think the odds of something like this is slim ....true but that's only because it's never happen to you :) it does happen, I know a couple webmasters that ran into trouble with the law over underage shit. All it takes is someone that suspects you have underage models and that is enough to trigger an investigation..... Sure it may cost a lot of money buying movies, feeds, images, shooting exclusive......but fuck! you have no worries about getting sued, or being busted by some gov agency. Maybe it is 100% safe to use this stuff maybe it isn't but maybe is not good enough for me, I need to see some form of legal document or talk to a lawyer that assures me that it's okay to use this type of content......but what kind of legal advisor is going to tell you using content that you do not have rights too is okay?

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 06:29 AM
ShopLifter I agree, it is amazing how much content is just ripped off in the Asian niche.

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 06:30 AM
Japan is definately pumping out a lot of new and unique stuff for the internet everday. I see movies online and original content everyday on Japanese paysites.

As someone said (ALOTI, I think), there are two markets for Asian porn...an American market for American style Asian porn stars and an Asian market for Japanese style AV. Not sure if the Western market is so large for the Japanese AV...or maybe the Asian market is large enough for the Japanese porn producers.

The bootleg market (sites with urabon scans, AV rips, etc) is, of course, an illegal and undergroud market. Since it is operating across countries and languages, it is probably not so high risk...excepting the fact that the original producers of this stuff are probably Japanese gangs in the case of urabon and uncensored video (!!)

Ideas like "it is illegal in Japan, so there is no copyright" are foolhardy (see Japanese gangs above). Of course there is an original owner and the rights have been hijacked. Probably it is something you will get away with, but it is not something I promote doing.

mech
08-22-2002, 06:37 AM
I've started a new topic concerning copyrights at http://www.foogie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=238. Let's move this conversation over there, it's getting too large for this tread about choosing a new domain name.

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 06:52 AM
For the western market from what I can see the Japanese style is more of a micro niche here.....not so main stream, and a touch harder to market. Over all if your targeting the west like US your mostly targeting a non Asian surfer, they tend to prefer that Asian American style..... that's just the way it is like when people say what Asian guy wants to see some white or black guy screwing a Asian pornstar? Same goes true for white and black guys or what ever non Asian race.

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 07:06 AM
There's a market here for it, but it is an underground or collector's style market...it's for the guys that have run through all the sites and know what is good and lame 8)

Kind of like comic book collectors...lots of them out there, but you got to target them in different ways...hehe

(well...I mean japanese AV style sites)

CrazyAL
08-22-2002, 07:25 AM
Yah but a market like that is really hard to sell too, they know to much shit to pay for porn.... very very hard to sell to them unless you really have something crazy.

ecchi mecha
08-22-2002, 07:37 AM
well...people will aways buy into quality shit, or will pay for convenience, etc...there's a market for everything :wink:

javmodel
08-22-2002, 11:44 AM
Sorry for my poor English and made some misunderstanding.
All I am talking is the uncensored movie, not the censored movies.
Al the censored movies has copyright and I bought it from my content provider in asia.
However, for the unique uncensored movie, I got it from underground Japan.
I think if you ask the content provider for the minori aoi, azumi kawashima uncensored movie and they will say it is not available because never released in the market. That's what I mean the underground uncensored movie.
:lol:

iLostMyPwdAgain
08-22-2002, 05:15 PM
If you're not sure what niche you're going into, better to think up a name that can be used for anything but is still interesting.

i'm not the guy who thinks up names, so i'm pretty uninventive...