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smoker
06-23-2002, 09:30 PM
I wanted to get a census of what people thought about the situation that has been created over the years with true asian site owners such as myself and many of the people on this board versus the fake asian site owners such as the "Big Players" who own and run 50+ paysites with a couple asian sites and market them saying 100,000+ pics, 100K movies, etc and you go in and theres 10,000 asian pics and 200 movies...

I really feel that these companies and really messing up our niche and turning the customer into denial and making him not ever join another site again.

Tell me what you all think about this

mech
06-23-2002, 10:07 PM
I think from the point of view from a tgp owner most people might be inclined to say "who cares? As long as I make money" but trying to look from the point of view from a pay site owner I see this as a huge opportunity. Why not make one whole tour page bashing the bad pay sites and why (even if you were burned in the past) you need to join your pay site.

I think the only way you loose a customer forever is if he was CC scammed, not given his bang for the buck doesn't seem like a permanent scar.

eru
06-23-2002, 11:35 PM
Those big player paysites are shit anyway. The three page tour doesn't work anymore -- surfers like the KISS strategy (keep it simple stupid!). I believe that surfers also like personality -- they want to know model names, they want to know bio's. Hell, even stories about the photo shoots are appreciated. This is one of the reasons why sites run by big companies have shitty retention.

BTW, my all-time "favorite" big-player site is www.tokyobitches.com . I don't think a site can get any more stereotypical than this one. I crack up every time I see it!

CrazyAL
06-24-2002, 05:08 AM
Exclusive does nice for sure!.......but for me when checking out a paysite it's personality and keeping it simple and clean, and nice selection of pics, like hand picked.......I been in so many paysites where I can barely browse, it's so confusing and I'm a fuggin webmasters, imaging joe blow surfer. They have all these little areas and poorly placed links and just plain bad design...zero effort. Content too, nice hi res pics and movies, and good selection of other types of content.........not 1980s cheesy hair stlye porn.. put fresh shit up, not meaning exclusive, but atleast buy content that is somewhat fresh once in a while, I like some old pics, but most want to see fresh :) ...I find lots of the "big players" use shitty ass content that is really old in all their sites not just Asians, but that's where they lack in ...personality. For them they don't care.. they make it all in upsells and crazy ass recurring prices like $39.99 for example. The best big name paysites I been in is the gamma sites, I just like the way they layout everything, very clean, simple to browse (don't know how they look now though)......like u ever notice some paysites look so kick ass pro from the outside and then u get inside and it looks like a 3 year old built the member area :lol: if u ever been around when Xpics was kicking it and u been in a Xpics site you would know what I mean :lol:

mech
06-24-2002, 05:30 AM
LOL! Oh the memories come flooding back! Xpics were my first sponsor ever (until their IRS raid and eventual shut down) then I moved on to GammaCash. Those were the days, the conversion back in 97/98 were killer. I wish I wasn't so green back them and was smart enough to realize what potential was abound! I could have been the Hun or GreenGuy but now I'm just another poor webmaster who didn't take advantage of the height :oops: . Then again I was only 16 and had no CC so it's not like I could have done anything anyways :P :wink: .

CrazyAL
06-24-2002, 05:44 AM
Yah gamma use to turn like clock work, I was also a lil dumb with some of my choices back then. Running a free site and maintaining 1:250 was a reg thing back then, if you had 1:500 or 1:1000 you were doing something wrong. Now lots of webmaster turn 1:1000 they are happy, or even more extreme in some cases.....like with TGP traffic.

eru
06-24-2002, 06:40 AM
Damn you old farts. I've only been around since March but I hear a lot about the good 'ole days from webmasters who have been around for awhile.

smoker
06-24-2002, 09:59 AM
Yea! defintely back in 97-99 era was the way for the niche sites...Hardly any sites were out there. I was promoting maxcash back then and they rocked!

But now I think most surfers are aware that those sites suck now.... but they defintely have the traffic source to pull in many new members everyday....

Mikey
07-08-2002, 12:43 AM
Most of the "big player's" asian sites suck. It is like one day they said "shit, we don't have an asian site!" and told their designer to make one and he basically just took one of their other sites and added some "asian" (or what he thought were asian girls) to it.

CrazyAL
07-08-2002, 01:59 AM
Yah thats what most the big-player sites are they have like 30-100 sites but it's all the same site the only diffrence is they add a little bit of niche content and that goes for all niches not just Asian, but when you got the traffic and advertisers doesn't matter what you put out I guess :?

eru
07-08-2002, 04:48 AM
I love it when they pass white girls with dark brown/black hair as being Asian.

Austin
07-08-2002, 06:09 AM
Do girls from India count as Asian? I have one guy that keeps submitting galleries of this same old hag from India. Whatsup wit dat?

steve
07-08-2002, 06:22 AM
yo ...I've seen some nasty looking hairy babes in some asian nudie mags targeted to indians....must be a cultural thing

of course, I've also seen some fine ass indian chicks, so go figure

Mikey
07-08-2002, 06:23 AM
Indians I would lump in with the ethnic niche just because most tgps don't have an Indian category. Indian is already a pretty strong niche for me, traffic wise.

I have passed off a couple of babes as asian when they probably weren't. But I just put in the description the word eurasian to sort of steer the reviewer or surfer into thinking the girl was mixed.

I am asian and I can tell the difference, but most people can't.

steve
07-08-2002, 06:30 AM
well...van nuys/chatsworth style porn sucks to begin with...right? so american porn's take on asians isn't worth much...

urecco, gokuh, minisuka deluxe, bejean, urabon, kogal, amateur style stuff you just ain't going to find on an american site...

eru
07-08-2002, 03:29 PM
yo ...I've seen some nasty looking hairy babes in some asian nudie mags targeted to indians....must be a cultural thing

of course, I've also seen some fine ass indian chicks, so go figure

Is Salma Hayek Indian? I saw her on Dogma last night -- she's a babe!